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jabsadmin

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Posted - 12/03/2008 :  16:20:14  Show Profile  Visit jabsadmin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/12/03/mmr-toddler-died-after-jab-115875-20942058/

Mirror

3 December 2008

MMR toddler died after jab

INQUEST

A tot of 18 months died 10 days after having the MMR jab, an inquest heard yesterday.

Mum Sarah Fisher, 42, said she told doctors George had had febrile convulsions. She was not warned of any complications with the vaccine.

After the MMR, he had diarrhoea, a runny nose and no appetite. She found George, of Cheltenham, Glos, dead. Mrs Fisher said: "We cannot understand how our healthy son died."

An expert said it was fine for him to have the jab despite his condition. The inquest continues.

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http://blogs.thetimes.co.za/minor/2008/12/02/mmr-autism-and-a-babys-death/

The Times, South Africa

Minor Matters

MMR, autism and a baby’s death
2 December 2008,

In the UK last month, an immunisation expert, Dr Mary Ramsay, said that there is currently “a real risk of a large measles epidemic”. More than a thousand cases of measles were reported in the UK during the first 10 months of this year. The reason, of course, is that parents are not vaccinating their children because of the autism scare caused by Dr Andrew Wakefield suggesting that there is a link between the MMR vaccine and an increased risk of autism and bowel disorders. His research was disapproved earlier this year when a team from London’s Guy’s and St Thomas’s hospitals found no evidence to link MMR to autism.

But here is another, more plausible scare: without the correct information your child can die from MMR. According to his parents, the death of a little 18-month old boy, George Fisher, could have been prevented with more information about the MMR vaccination. The Guardian reported today that:

George Fisher, who was 18 months old, was discovered dead in his cot in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire by his mother Sarah Fisher ten days after being given the MMR jab in January 2006, a coroner was told.

George suffered from febrile convulsions – fits caused by high temperatures - and Mrs Fisher, 44, and husband Christopher, 43, believe the vaccine was “implicated” in their son’s death.

They say the temperature-raising effects of the drug on children who have suffered febrile convulsions were not explained to them, adding that this knowledge might have allowed them to act sooner.

PS: I vaccinate.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/healthy-baby-died-after-mmr-jab-1048237.html

Independent

'Healthy' baby died after MMR jab

By James Woodward, PA
Tuesday, 2 December 2008

A "healthy and robust" baby who died just ten days after being given the MMR jab had earlier suffered a fever fit which can be aggravated by the vaccine, an inquest heard today.

George Fisher, aged 18 months, was discovered dead in his cot in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire by his mother Sarah Fisher just hours after he was heard "chatting away on the baby monitor", a coroner was told.

Mrs Fisher, 44, and husband Christopher, 43, believe the vaccine is "implicated" in their son's death in January 2006 as the temperature-raising effects of the drug on children who have suffered febrile convulsions were not explained to them - knowledge they say might have allowed them to act sooner.

Department of Health guidelines say the jab should be given "with caution" but does not ban child sufferers of febrile convulsions from taking it and recommends temperature monitoring.

Two doctors confirmed that giving MMR to sufferers like George, who contracted the fever four months earlier, was permitted under patient guidelines with careful watches recommended.

The coroner heard George was born at a healthy 8lbs 10oz, and came through his routine injection with no side effects.

His GP Dr Annette Bugaighis confirmed that George fell ill on 25 September 2005 after returning from a holiday in Spain and developed a high temperature.

After suffering a fit at the Overton Park surgery he was rushed to hospital where it was found he had suffered febrile convulsion - a fit caused by a fever.

Dr Bugaighis said: "There was nothing obvious in his medical history to explain his sudden death."

A Department of Health pamphlet advises only that MMR2 should be given "with caution" to those who "with an individual or family history of cerebral injury or any other condition in which stress due to fever should be avoided. The physician should be alert to the rise in temperature that may follow".

George was admitted to hospital from the surgery with high temperature, stiff neck, crying and puffy eyes, and green-tinged stools.

Both Dr Bugagis and consultant paediatrician, Alan Day, of Cheltenham General Hospital, agreed that George was safe to be given the vaccine on 9 January 2006 - adding that he should be monitored for the warned raised temperature.

Dr Day said his advice to parents whose child had suffered a febrile convulsion before being given the vaccine would be to take paracetamol and "purchase a good thermometer".

In evidence Mrs Fisher, a hotel receptionist, said her son was a "healthy and robust" child who had breast-fed for 11 months - longer than her other three children.

After his febrile illness he was given antibiotics and on the Wednesday before he died was "running around playing football with his father".

The night before he died he was "chatting away on the baby monitor", she added.

She said: "He took his bottle of water and I put the quilt over him, stroked his head and said goodnight. I went to bed, heard him drink his water, then throw the bottle on the floor. I heard him shuffling around."

At 8am his sister Meg, who was sharing a room with him, called out to her.

She added: "I was surprised he was not awake. I tried to wake him but it was clear he was dead because of his colour and he was cold."

She explained that he was due to attend a doctor's appointment for his worsening symptoms on the day he died.

She added that she now knew George should have been more closely monitored because of his previous condition.

Mr Fisher, a pipe-fitter, said that no Patient Information Leaflet on the MMR precautions to be taken with children who had previously suffered fever had been given to the family. Nor was any verbal advice specific to his circumstances.

He said: "How I remember it, we were told if he had a rising temperature to give him Calpol if he got grisly. I had been present at all my children's vaccines and it's the same spiel on every occasion.

"Given his condition they should have been aware of his medical history. At no point were we asked for this before his vaccination."

"If we had (been given the leaflet) we would have gone to hospital much quicker because of the information in that list. We would have been much more concerned than we actually were."

Nurse Heather Mitchell, who gave the injection, said she trusted parents' instincts and was satisfied when they told her George was well on the day.

Nurse Mitchell, who vaccinates "in excess" of 1,000 babies a year, said no specific advice was required other then regular checking of temperature.

Ten years ago research led by Dr Andrew Wakefield, a gastroenterologist at London's Royal Free Hospital, sparked fears that the combined Measles, Mumps and Rubella (MMR) vaccine was linked to autism.

Several studies in Britain, Finland and Japan have since disproved connection but popular anxiety over 'the jab' has persisted.

Last week it emerged that cases of measles had topped 1,000 for the first time in more than a decade.

Mary Ramsay, of the Health Protection Agency, attributed the rise to the "relatively low" uptake of the MMR vaccine.

Gloucestershire Coroner Alan Crickmore will hear up to three days of evidence at the Shire Hall, Gloucester, before recording a verdict.

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jabsadmin

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http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/headlines/Inquest-begin-death-baby-MMR-vaccination/article-515384-detail/article.html

thisisgloucester.co.uk

Inquest to begin into death of baby after MMR vaccination

Tuesday, December 02, 2008, 08:30

An inquest into the death of an 18-month old boy who died 10 days after being given the controversial MMR jab will be held today.
George Fisher, described as a "healthy and robust child" was discovered dead in his cot in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire by his mother Sarah Fisher.

She and husband Christopher Fisher believe the vaccine is "implicated" in their son's death – particularly as, according to their legal team, MMR can cause raised temperature in children who have previously suffered fever, as George had.

In September 2005 he suffered a febrile convulsion (an attack caused by fever), was treated at Cheltenham General Hospital and released the same day.

On January 9 2006, George was given his MMR vaccination and returned to his home in Wyman's Brook. He showed symptoms of lost appetite, red eyes, and diarrhoea before he died on January 19.

A spokesman for solicitors Withy King, representing the family said: "It is documented that children who have experienced a febrile convulsion should be closely monitored following their MMR vaccination as it can raise their temperature.

"Mr and Mrs Fisher insist they were not told this when they took George for his MMR vaccination, nor were they asked about his medical history.

"After his vaccination, George developed a runny nose and gradually lost his appetite. He later developed red eyes and diarrhoea.

"Mrs Fisher made an appointment for George to see his GP but he was found dead in his cot on January 19 – the morning he was due to see the doctor.

"In the absence of any other medical explanation, George's parents maintain that the MMR vaccine must be implicated in their son's death."

Ten years ago research led by Dr Andrew Wakefield, a gastroenterologist at London's Royal Free Hospital sparked fears that the combined Measles, Mumps and Rubella (MMR) vaccine was linked to autism.

Several studies have since disproved connection but popular anxiety over "the jab" has persisted.

Last week it emerged that cases of measles had topped 1000 for the first time in more than a decade.

Mary Ramsay, of the Health Protection Agency, attributed the rise to the "relatively low" uptake of the MMR vaccine.

Gloucestershire Coroner Alan Crickmore will hear a day of evidence at the Shire Hall, Gloucester, before recording a verdict.
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jabsadmin

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1997134.ece

The Sun

Tot died in MMR ‘mix-up’

By JOHN COLES

3 Dec 2008

A TODDLER died ten days after the MMR jab when doctors failed to warn his parents of possible complications, an inquest heard.

George Fisher, 18 months, suffered a febrile convulsion months earlier, characterised by high fever and fits.

But his parents claim medics did not alert them to any potential problems before his measles, mumps and rubella jab.

The tot later fell ill and was found dead in his cot by distraught mum Sarah.

Dad Christopher, 43, told the Gloucester inquest: “I don’t recall getting any specific advice on his condition. We now know the leaflet that goes with the vaccine – which was not shared with us – says that children who’ve had a febrile convulsion should be closely monitored.”

Nurse Heather Mitchell said George seemed well, so she gave him the jab. She was “distressed” by his death. The inquest continues.

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jabsadmin

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Posted - 12/03/2008 :  16:52:24  Show Profile  Visit jabsadmin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/dec/02/health-children

Guardian

MMR baby 'chatting away' hours before his death, inquest hears

Parents of George Fisher, who died at 18 months, say they could have acted earlier had they been given the right information

Lee Glendinning and agencies guardian.co.uk,

Tuesday December 2 2008 15.45 GMT Article history

George Fisher who died aged 17 months, 10 days after having the MMR triple jab. Photograph: Matt Cardy/Getty Images

A healthy baby boy who was heard "chatting away on the baby monitor" just hours before he died received an MMR jab shortly after suffering a fever fit that the vaccine may have aggravated, an inquest heard today.

George Fisher, who was 18 months old when he was discovered dead in his cot in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire by his mother, Sarah Fisher, had been given the MMR jab 10 days earlier in January 2006, a coroner heard.

George suffered from febrile convulsions, fits caused by high temperatures. Fisher, 44, and her husband, Christopher, 43, believe the vaccine was "implicated" in their son's death.

They say the temperature-raising effects of the drug on children with febrile convulsions were not explained to them, and that this knowledge might have allowed them to act sooner.

According to Department of Health guidelines, the jab should be given ''with caution''. However, the guidelines do not ban child sufferers of febrile convulsions from receiving it, but rather recommends monitoring their temperatures.

Two doctors confirmed that giving MMR to sufferers such as George was permitted under patient guidelines, with careful watches recommended.

In evidence, Fisher said her son had been a "healthy and robust" child who she had breastfed for 11 months - longer than her other three children.

He was given antibiotics for his febrile illness shortly before he received his MMR jab, and had been "running around playing football with his father"on the Wednesday before he died .

The night before he died, he was "chatting away on the baby monitor", she added.

"He took his bottle of water and I put the quilt over him, stroked his head and said goodnight. I went to bed, heard him drink his water, then throw the bottle on the floor. I heard him shuffling around."

At 8am, his sister Meg, who was sharing a room with him, called out to her.

"I was surprised he was not awake. I tried to wake him, but it was clear he was dead because of his colour, and he was cold," Fisher said.

He had been due to attend a doctor's appointment for his worsening symptoms on the day he died.

She added that she now knew George should have been more closely monitored because of his previous condition.

The coroner heard George was born at a healthy 8lbs 10oz, and came through his routine injection with no side-effects.

Dr Annette Bugaighis, his GP, said the child fell ill on September 25, 2005, after returning from a holiday in Spain, and developed a high temperature.

After suffering a fit at the Overton Park surgery, he was rushed to hospital, where it was found he had suffered febrile convulsion. When admitted, George had a high temperature, stiff neck, puffy eyes, and green-tinged stools.

Both Dr Annette Bugaighis and consultant paediatrician Alan Day of Cheltenham general hospital agreed that he was safe to be given the vaccine on January 9 2006, and that he should be monitored for raised temperature.

"There was nothing obvious in his medical history to explain his sudden death,'' Dr Bugaighis said.

A Department of Health pamphlet advises only that MMR2 should be given "with caution" to those "with an individual or family history of cerebral injury or any other condition in which stress due to fever should be avoided. The physician should be alert to the rise in temperature that may follow."

Mr Fisher said that the family had not been given a patient information leaflet on the MMR precautions to be taken with children who had previously suffered fever. Nor was any verbal advice specific to his circumstances.

"How I remember it, we were told if he had a rising temperature to give him Calpol if he got grizzly. I had been present at all my children's vaccines and it's the same spiel on every occasion," he said.

"Given his condition, they should have been aware of his medical history. At no point were we asked for this before his vaccination."

"If we had been [given the leaflet], we would have gone to hospital much quicker because of the information in that list. We would have been much more concerned than we actually were."

Heather Mitchell, the nurse who gave George his injection, said she trusted his parents' instincts and was satisfied when they told her George was well on the day.

Nurse Mitchell, who vaccinates "in excess" of 1,000 babies a year, said no specific advice was required other then regular checking of temperature.

The Gloucestershire coroner, Alan Crickmore, will hear up to three days of evidence at the Shire Hall, Gloucester, before recording a verdict.

Ten years ago, research led by Dr Andrew Wakefield, a gastroenterologist at London's Royal Free Hospital, prompted fears that the combined Measles, Mumps and Rubella vaccine was linked to autism.

Despite several studies in Britain, Finland and Japan disproving the connection, anxiety has persisted over the vaccine. Cases of measles have topped 1,000 for the first time in more than a decade, according to information that emerged last week. The Health Protection Agency has attributed the rise to the "relatively low" uptake of the MMR vaccine.
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jabsadmin

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1091288/Baby-died-days-given-MMR-jab-failure-warn-possible-complications.html

Daily Mail

Baby died ten days after being given MMR jab 'because of failure to warn of possible complications'

By Luke Salkeld

Last updated at 4:39 PM on 02nd December 2008
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A baby died 10 days after being injected with the MMR vaccine because doctors failed to warn his parents about possible complications, an inquest heard yesterday.

Eighteen-month-old George Fisher had suffered a febrile convulsion - a condition characterised by high fever, fits and inflamed limbs - before receiving the jab.

But his parents claim doctors failed to warn them about the potential complications he faced when he received the injection.
They say doctors did not ask them about George's medical history or warn them that he should be monitored after having the vaccination.
Yesterday his mother Sarah Fisher described the moment she found George dead in his cot.

Inquest: George Fisher died in his sleep aged 17 months 10 days after having the controversial MMR triple jab

The 42-year-old hotel receptionist told an inquest : 'At 8am my daughter Megan, who was sharing a room with George, was calling me.

'When I went to go to the bathroom, I went over to George and was surprised that he was not awake. If Meg was awake, he was awake, always.

'When I saw him it was clear to me that he was dead because of his colour.'

She told the hearing in Gloucester: 'We cannot understand how our healthy 18-month-old son died within ten days of having the vaccine.'

The inquest heard how George suffered a febrile convulsion after falling ill with a high temperature on a family day out in September 2005.

He was taken to hospital but released the same day after doctors concluded he was a 'healthy and robust' child.

On January 9, 2006, George was given the MMR vaccine at Overton Park Surgery.

His parents claim that doctors did not tell them of the possible risks of high temperature or ask about his medical history when was vaccinated.

Christopher and Sarah Fisher at the Shire Hall, Gloucester, for the inquest into the death of their son, George

Ten days after the jab George fell ill, suffering a loss of appetite and diarrhoea.

Yesterday his father Christopher Fisher, 43, told the inquest it was the third time they had taken George - the youngest of four children - to have his MMR jab as he had been too ill on previous occasions.

The 43-year-old said: 'He was the best he had been for some time and we had no concerns about him having the vaccination.

'But I don't recall getting any specific advice on his condition or any general advice. It just didn't happen.

'I have been to all the vaccinations for all my children and it was the same talk as with all of them.'

He added: 'My wife and I now know that the leaflet that goes with the MMR vaccine, which was not shared with us, says that children who have had febrile convulsion should be closely monitored.

George's parents claim that doctors did not tell them of the possible risks of high temperature or ask about his medical history when was vaccinated

'Given that he had the febrile convulsion in the GP's surgery they should have been aware of his medical history.

'We can only do the best that we can do - which is difficult when you are not aware of the facts.'

Nurse Heather Mitchell, who administered George with the MMR vaccine, said George showed no sign of illness when he came for his jab.

She said: 'The MMR vaccination was given 17 months ago so I am unable to remember the exact case but we do have a set routine on this cases.

'I have the same procedure which includes checking if the child is due for their vaccination and checking the medical history.'

There is now specific advice relating to febrile convulsion other than to monitor the child and check their temperature, she added.
She added: 'I always suggest to the parents that they should trust their instincts and call the surgery for advice.

'It was my professional opinion that on the day of the vaccination that this child was well so I subsequently vaccinated him.'

Dr Alan Day, consultant paediatrician at Cheltenham General Hospital , said medical staff were correct in administering George with the MMR vaccination despite his illness.

'It's a short dramatic illness but I would suggest that the jab should still be given to the child.

'Although the child should be given regular ibuprofen and paracetemol to reduce the temperature, have his temperature taken and be watched over for a few days.'

The inquest continues.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/children_shealth/3543692/Healthy-toddler-died-10-days-after-being-given-MMR-vaccination.html

Telegraph

Healthy toddler died 10 days after being given MMR vaccination
A "healthy and robust" 18-month-old boy died 10 days after being given the controversial MMR vaccination, an inquest heard.

By Richard Savill
Last Updated: 11:13PM GMT 02 Dec 2008

Toddler George Fisher had been happily playing football with his father the day before he died Photo: PA
Sarah and Christopher Fisher said they believed the jab was "implicated" in the sudden death of their son George.

The inquest heard how George had suffered an epileptic-type fit four months before being given the MMR vaccine and that this might have been a warning he could react badly to the jab.

However, a consultant told the inquest that while it had been deemed safe to give the child the innoculation against Measles, Mumps and Rubella, his parents should have been told to monitor his temperature.

Mrs Fisher, 42, a hotel receptionist, said she had not been given any information about what symptoms might signal an adverse reaction to the jab.

The inquest heard how George was found dead in his cot on the morning of January 19, 2006.

Mrs Fisher, who has three other children, said George had been happily playing football with his father the day before he died. He went to bed as normal about 7pm.

Before Mrs Fisher went to bed at 11.30pm she heard him "chatting away" on the baby monitor. She made a final check on him, turned him onto his back, put the quilt over him, stroked his head, and said goodnight.

She heard him drink from his bottle and then throw it down on the floor before shuffling around to get comfortable.

At 8am next morning, she said, her daughter Megan, who shared a room with George, called out to her.

"I put her in our bed. I glanced at George as I went into the bathroom and was surprised he was not yet awake.

"I went to try to wake him up but it was clear to me he was dead because of his colour and he was cold."

She added: "We simply cannot understand why our healthy 18-month-old son died 10 days after the MMR vaccination."

The inquest heard that Department of Health guidelines say that children like George who have suffered a fit brought on by a high fever, known as a "febrile convulsion", should be given MMR but "with caution".

Consultant paediatrician, Alan Day, of Cheltenham General Hospital, agreed that George was safe to be given the vaccine on January 9 2006 - adding that he should be monitored for the warned raised temperature.

Dr Day said his advice to parents whose child had suffered a febrile convulsion before being given the vaccine would be to take paracetamol and "purchase a good thermometer".

But Mr Fisher, a pipe-fitter, said that no Patient Information Leaflet on the MMR precautions to be taken with children who had previously suffered fever had been given to the family. Nor was any verbal advice specific to his circumstances.

George was given his MMR vaccination but he showed symptoms of lost appetite, red eyes, and diarrhoea before he died on Jan 19.

His parents said that had they seen the patient information leaflet they might have taken more notice of their son's temperature fluctuations after the MMR vaccination and taken him to hospital.

Instead they had made an appointment with their GP, but George died before it could be kept.

Paediatric pathologist Dr Nikola Ostojic said George died as a result of oedema - fluid - on the lungs. But he could not identify a reason for the leakage and gave the cause of death as unascertained.

He said a possible explanation might be a "heart insufficiency" but could not be sure.

Professor Elizabeth Miller, an immunisation expert for the Heath Protection Agency, said the MMR jab can cause a febrile convulsion in one child in two to three thousand.

She said the febrile convulsion would be expected to occur between six and 14 days after an MMR jab.

But Prof Miller could see no direct link between the jab and the child's death.

She said: "Fatal outcomes associated with MMR vaccination as a result of febrile convulsion have not to my knowledge been reported."

Professor of Infant Health, Peter Fleming, of Bristol University, said it was most likely that George died from a rare type of seizure known as Sudden Unexpected Death in Childhood.

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Express

DOCTORS DID NOT WARN US THAT JAB COULD KILL OUR BABY

Wednesday December 3,2008

By Martyn Brown A BABY died 10 days after being given the MMR vaccine because doctors failed to warn his parents about possible complications, an inquest was told yesterday.

Eighteen-month-old George Fisher suffered from febrile convulsion – a condition characterised by high fever, fits and inflamed limbs – shortly before receiving the jab.

But his parents claim doctors failed to warn them about the potential side effects he faced after the injection.

They say doctors did not ask them about George’s medical history or warn them that he should be monitored after the vaccination. Yesterday his mother Sarah Fisher, 42, described the moment when she found George dead in his cot.

She said: “I put him to bed. I stroked his head and kissed him goodnight. At 8am when I saw him it was clear he was dead.

“We cannot understand how our healthy son died within 10 days of having the vaccine.”

Mr and Mrs Fisher, at the inquest yesterday, say doctors did not warn them of danger

The inquest heard that George suffered a febrile convulsion after falling ill with a high temperature on a family day out in their home town, Cheltenham, in 2005.

His parents took him to Overton Park surgery and he was rushed to Cheltenham General Hospital. He was released after doctors concluded he was a “healthy and robust” child.

Four months later George was given the MMR vaccine at the same surgery and 10 days after that he fell ill.

His father Christopher, 43, said: “Given that he had the convulsion in the surgery they should have been aware of his medical history.”

Mr and Mrs Fisher say the MMR vaccine is “implicated” in their son’s death.

Nurse Heather Mitchell, who gave George the MMR vaccine, said he showed no sign of illness when he came for his jab.

Dr Alan Day, consultant paediatrician at Cheltenham General, said staff were correct in giving George the vaccine despite his illness.

Professor Elizabeth Miller, an immunisation expert, said the MMR jab can cause a febrile convulsion “in one child in two to three thousand.”


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John Stone

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From Allison Edwards

The Inquest into the Death of George Fisher

On a dismal and bitterly cold December day, the outside of Gloucester’s Shire Hall's was covered up, hidden behind shabby tarpaulin drooped over scaffolding. By the lunchtime break it might have occurred to anyone attending the Inquest into the death of little George Fisher, that some caring renovation work would not have gone amiss on the due process taking place inside the building.


Let me make it clear, procedure may be being followed but there is a distinct air of collaboration amongst the professionals who seek to cover their own backs. Something that has prevented the Fisher family so far from issuing their belief clearly, as eye-witnesses to the MMR being the culprit in the death of their 18 month old son and amidst their grief being expected to source the science to support it and also brief their ‘green as grass’ barrister of all the ins and outs and shenanigans to date. The early indication from the Coroner's confession of "being a lawyer not a medical man" did little to instill great confidence considering he has sole decision on the outcome of this important case.


Positioning of the powerful within the semi-circular chamber was obvious, in the, more than a hint-of-sixties styled, brightly lit courtroom. In command of the proceedings, for this case is Coroner Alan Crickmore in the highest seat with the grandiose pale wooden surroundings. A clerk chaired at ground level beneath him facing out to the family, ready to read statements to the theatre auditorium calls "all stand" as Mr Crickmore enters (and leaves), which I thought only happened in American dramas, obviously not. Three seating sections sprayed out from the centre, the middle occupied by the family fronted by their barrister, to their right they were flanked by pharma and nursing representatives, and their left by Immunisation Department bods and doctors, most notable being Dr Liz Miller. Media and public to the rear.


The accepted experience of these proceedings being more "every day" to the Coroner and professionals trained up for just such circumstances is countered by the awesome and menacing importance of this for the Fishers who were thrust into this dauntingly emotional process by the tragic experience of discovering their son dead in his cot. The stuff of all our nightmares'. Scant regard or consideration seemed to be given to how 'abnormal' all of this procedure this is to them was highlighted by an incidence at the beginning when Sarah's disabled Auntie, sitting on an automatic scooter hidden from view behind the half height wooden semi-circular wall in front of her dared to speak up to say (quite rightly) that she couldn’t hear. Accompanied by her husband with a hearing aid in each ear. It was all handled so insensitively by Coroner Crickmore who promptly stamped his authority and rather rudely told her to move herself to a better position.


Deposited as she was, on the main carpeted routeway, with no seating he ought to have deduced why she positioned there in the first place. It was left to her old man to explain that she was disabled and couldn't shift, he too was not handled with any deference. An Usher saved the situation by giving her a microphone/speaker set. Nerves were by now jangling throughout the room that if the disabled were handled like this how would the rest of us be treated if we dared make a sound? I think he was rather clumsily, making a point of showing he would not be messed with, by anyone! Quite frankly we were ALL wondering how we were going to hear as she bravely bore the brunt of his opinion on interruptions. However, he managed to do a fair old bit of it himself throughout, cutting the family barrister off before she'd reached the end of her first sentence on a couple of notable occasions and giving her a verbal dressing down. Do as I say but not as I do! She was a little too obedient for my liking. He was having no "asking a question one way, then putting it in another way in order to extract a different answer" - this sort of directness would indeed be welcomed at the everlasting hearing for Dr’s Wakefield, Walker-Smith and Murch.


The mumbling mutterings of Dr Alan Joseph Day were irritatingly quiet, yet no-one dared say a thing. He was there to give his professional opinion, as a local Consultant Paediatrician, in an evidence report he'd written in March 2008. It covered George's medical history relating to his first febrile convulsion in the September prior to his death the following January, how it was a short but dramatic seizure not a fifteen minute one that would have caused more concern. No further monitoring of George was done up to his death. Dr Day did not see George when he was alive. As far as giving him the MMR, there were no contra-indications as far as he was concerned, he was asked to state his opinion on MMR, he declined. It was remarkable. His voice barely audible, crucial sentences were left unfinished, hanging in the air, for example, "each case needs it’s own......"??? Not a word from the Chair on high - why not? Perhaps he too couldn’t hear.


When Mr Barton, from Sanofi, brought out the big files he deftly rounded on Calpol and Medi-ced as being neither a cure or preventative of fits. He managed to visibly quosh Dr Day's confidence in his 'standard advice' to use them, as he was asked to read out the conclusion from "NICE Guidelines of 'expert opinion' on the clinical handling of fever advice recommendations" that based on reported side-effects such drugs should not be used with other drugs and the dangers of it being given while the child is dehydrated. This is the point where the family’s barrister should have leapt to her feet and asked him to read out the list of reported symptoms of adverse reactions to MMR on their own product sheet because Georgie had displayed a range of them, but she didn’t an opportunity missed.


The determined base of Sanofi's case is to pin it on another product. Mr Barton is an top barrister, a ‘troubleshooter’, oozing confidence without a shred of arrogance, he’s eloquent and direct and very sharp. There was, however too little Medi-ced left in Georgies bloodstream, as he had been sick after his milk bottle the previous evening to give this as a credible cause of death. No, the MMR had left Georgie with a runny nose, straight after, diarrhoea (he also was teething), sore ears, a temperature of 37.5, vomiting even though he went out and played football after, he was off his food, and had sore red eyes which had prompted his Mum to phone to make a doctors appointment he had died before she could take him to. He reacting to the three live viruses that were in his system. It clearly tortured his Mum wondering if she’d only given him more perhaps his temperature would not have got so high and he wouldn’t have fitted.


It was so hard to hear how this robust toddler died. He was a remarkably good birth weight almost 8lbs 10oz, he breastfed well until aged 11 months. He was the youngest of four children, Sarah and Chris were well-experienced and instinctive parents. They too felt they had no real concerns. His feisty nature was described by them both in turn, how he could lift a baby sit-in car above his head at age twelve months and managed to move his cot across the wooden floor of his bedroom whilst still in it. Many times we heard the circumstances in the run up to and subsequent discovery of his body and it prompted tears around the room and broken voices particularly that of the Practice Nurse, Hannah Mitchell who administered George with the MMR on January 9th. She could not recall the process of the case but followed a regular pattern of checking notes and medical records and informing the parents putting them at ease. She, of course attends regular updates. Chris and Sarah both maintained this was not done, they were not given the correct advice or even a leaflet, for had they known to be aware of monitoring their son more closely they would have admitted him to hospital or may not have given him the 3-in-1 jab at all. Unbelievably, being asked just that by the coroner, "what they would have done if they knew" was probably again as insensitive as could be in the circumstances, seeing as they were sitting at his inquest. His parents remained brave and dignified but also fidgety with concerns that important points were being missed out which gave rise to a rebuke by Cornoner Crickmore for mum Sarah Fisher when she spoke up unannounced during Dad, Chris's testimony.


How much do a couple need to endure before their words are heard fairly? Patience and time seems to be granted to the emotionally detached, cooly uncaring back saving professionals. Why? What a price to pay 'for the greater good'. Will the same nit-picking as that done into Calpol and Medi-ced be given to MMR? I very much doubt it. For all children due for their MMR, it ought to be.


Later on Dr. Liz Miller admitted this can happen after MMR, that febrile convulsions can happen, and is most active on the tenth day being a true possibility. A damning testimony a little too carefully wrapped up in deniability – with again, no cross-examination worth it’s salt. Dr Liz Miller was brought in to replace Dr Fink , to be impartial, but how impartial when she was party to the very introduction process of the MMR into the UK. She’s hardly going to admit she made a mistake, so any reservations will be ably batted away with a swipe from her five other experts who are coming over well.


The hardest point raised was the suggestion that on the morning of Georges death, Chris had gone in to the room and moved his sister Meg, who was awake and had got into Georgie’s cot, the poor little soul had obviously spotted that something was amiss. Chris had lifted her out and put her in her own bed. There was 18 months between them but they were almost the same size as George was "big for his age", they shared a room. Again, insensitively put, the Coroner's directness asked that there could be no possibility that she might have covered George smothering him? There was none. Dad lifted her out of the cot then he'd gone off to work at 7.30am hoping not to waken George up, but not realizing he was probably already dead. Sarah found him around twenty minutes later, having beforehand directed clingy Meg to "get into mum's bed for a cuddle" not making the connection for Meg's distress. Then she went to get Georgie, found he was cold, his arms either side of his head, bubbles at his mouth his teeth firmly clenched, dead. A fit? She took him downstairs wrapped in a blanket and laid him on the sofa and rang the emergency services. Police and paramedics arrived to a distraught household, they tried to resuscitate him but failed he was declared deceased at 8.25am on January 19th 2006, 10 days after his MMR. His lungs and blood showed measles virus, he had an enlarged spleen which means he was fending off a virus – or three.


I have never been to an inquest before. I am the Mum of a boy who became severely autistic after his MMR. I sat next to Jackie Fletcher, of JABS a remarkable lady and mother to Robert who has a most profound disability after his MMR too. We have reason to believe that the faith and trust we parents place in those guardians of public health on immunisations has become much more about their own protection than our childrens’. We have been betrayed. We trusted their word and gave the vaccine they recommended. So much more depth and honesty is deserved when it goes wrong but in this case it would be admitting to murder if they knew about adverse reactions yet persisted with their safety assurances. Unfortunately I predict that no-one will be held accountable and the death put down to an “unascertained cause”.

My deepest sympathy is with Sarah and Chris Fisher, devoted parents of Georgie, and their family.

Allison Edwards
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Elizabeth

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Posted - 12/04/2008 :  09:22:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wonder if there's any chance of a "narrative" verdict?
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Posted - 12/04/2008 :  19:09:28  Show Profile  Visit jabsadmin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/gloucestershire/7765512.stm

BBC Newsonline 4/12/08

MMR 'not linked' to baby's death

George Fisher's parents think the MMR jab was "implicated" in his death

The death of an 18-month-old Cheltenham boy was due to natural causes and not linked to an MMR jab he received 10 days earlier, a coroner has ruled.

George Fisher was discovered by his mother Sarah, 42, at their Cheltenham home in January 2006.

Mrs Fisher and her husband Christopher, 43, believe the vaccine was "implicated" in their son's death.

But coroner Alan Crickmore said George's symptoms had emerged too soon after the jab to be related to it.

Recording a verdict of natural causes he said George had died "from a rare condition known as Sudden Unexpected Death in Childhood, due to an unascertained disease".

The inquest had been told by a number of medical experts there was no evidence of a link between George's death and the administration of the vaccine.

Speaking outside court the Fisher's lawyer Judith Leach said the family were extremely disappointed by the verdict.

"In the absence of any medical evidence to explain why their healthy little boy died and given the timing of the MMR vaccination in relation to George's death, his parents firmly believe there is a link between the two events and that the MMR vaccine had a role to play in George's death," she said.


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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/3550008/MMR-jab-played-no-part-in-boys-death-coroner-rules.html

Telegraph

4/12/08

MMR jab 'played no part in boy's death', coroner rules

The MMR vaccination played no part in the death of a "healthy and robust" 18-month-old boy, a coroner said.

By Richard Savill
Last Updated: 6:23PM GMT 04 Dec 2008

The finding that George Fisher died from natural causes disappointed his parents who said they remained convinced that the measles, mumps and rubella jab was a contributory factor.

The Gloucestershire coroner, Alan Crickmore, found that George died either from an apnea, a sudden cessation of breathing, or an arrhythmia of the heart.

The three-day inquest heard that George was found dead in his cot on Jan 19, 2006, 10 days after being given the vaccination.

He had suffered a febrile convulsion, a fit due to high temperature, four months earlier but the coroner also ruled out a link with that.

Delivering his verdict the coroner said George's case had several features in common with other deaths that had been described as sudden unexpected death in childhood.

Mr Crickmore added: "The MMR vaccination did not cause or contribute to George's death.

"George's death was a natural illness or disease process which ran its course but the specific illness or disease cannot be identified."

After the hearing in Gloucester, his parents, Christopher Fisher, 43, a plumber, and his wife, Sarah, 42, a hotel receptionist, said they were "extremely disappointed" by the verdict.

Their lawyer, Judith Leach, said: "In the absence of any medical evidence to explain why their healthy little boy died and given the timing of the MMR vaccination in relation to George's death, his parents firmly believe there is a link between the two events and that the MMR vaccine had a role to play in George's death."

The boy's mother added: "I think it is so wrong to put the death of a healthy little boy down to natural causes. There is nothing natural about an 18-month-old boy dying of nothing, because that is what it was, nothing.

"This has devastated our family all over again. Three years of work and reports and it is just natural causes. I will never, ever understand that word."

The inquest heard that from the day after the injection George had been unwell with a raised temperature, loss of appetite for solid food, diarrhoea, a cough and reddening of the lower eyelids.

His mother made an appointment for him to see a GP but her son died before it could be kept.

Pathologists and scientists who gave evidence to the inquest said the onset of George's symptoms was too soon for them to be related to the vaccination.

Although George had a 2 per cent chance of suffering a convulsion after the vaccination, those were not known to be fatal and there was no evidence he had had a second fit.

The coroner criticised a failure to warn George's parents that the vaccination increased the risk of their son having a second febrile convulsion.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/dec/04/mmr-death-verdict

Guardian

MMR vaccine played no part in baby's sudden death, coroner says

George Fisher's parents dismayed by coroner's verdict that the 18-month-old died of natural causes

David Batty and agencies guardian.co.uk,

Thursday December 4 2008 15.46

George Fisher who died aged 17 months, 10 days after having the MMR triple jab. Photograph: Matt Cardy/Getty Images

The MMR vaccine played no part in the death of a baby 10 days after getting the jab, a coroner ruled today.

George Fisher, aged 18 months, was discovered dead in his cot in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, by his mother, Sarah Fisher, hours after he was heard "chatting away on the baby monitor".

Fisher, 42, and her husband Christopher, 43, believe the vaccine is "implicated" in their son's death in January 2006.

They said no one had explained to them the temperature-raising effect of the jab on children who had previously suffered a fit, as George had.

But the Gloucestershire coroner Alan Crickmore decided that George's symptoms had emerged too soon after receiving the MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) jab to be related to it.

Although George had a 2% chance of suffering a convulsion after the jab, those were not known to be fatal and there was no evidence he had even had a second fit.

The coroner recorded a verdict of natural causes, ruling that George had died from a rare condition known as Sudden Unexpected Death in Childhood, due to an unascertained disease.

The verdict came after doctors, paediatricians and consultants told the hearing at Gloucester shire hall there was no evidence of a link between George's death and the jab.

Department of Health guidelines say the jab should be given "with caution" but does not ban child sufferers of febrile convulsions - fever fits - from taking it and recommends monitoring temperatures.

After the hearing the family's lawyer, Judith Leach, said George's parents were "extremely disappointed" with the verdict and would always believe MMR was to blame as no other cause had been found.

She read a statement saying: "The family are extremely disappointed in the verdict.

"In the absence of any medical evidence to explain why their healthy little boy died and given the timing of the MMR vaccination in relation to George's death, his parents firmly believe there is a link between the two events and that the MMR vaccine had a role to play in George's death."

Sarah Fisher, standing outside court with her husband, said: "I think it's so wrong to put the death of a healthy little boy down to natural causes. There's nothing natural about an 18-month-old boy dying of nothing, because that's what it was - nothing.

"This has devastated our family all over again. Three years of work and reports and it's just natural causes? I'll never, ever understand that word."

Ten years ago research led by Dr Andrew Wakefield, who is under investigation by the General Medical Council, sparked fears that the combined MMR vaccine was linked to autism.

Major studies in Britain, Finland and Japan have since disproved the connection but popular anxiety persists.

Last week it emerged that cases of measles had topped 1,000 for the first time in more than a decade, which public health experts blamed on the "relatively low" uptake of the MMR vaccine.
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http://www.ryeandbattleobserver.co.uk/latest-south-west-news/MMR-jab-not-linked-to.4763712.jp


Rye and Battle Observer
MMR jab not linked to baby's death

Date: 04 December 2008

The MMR jab played no part in the death of a "healthy and robust" baby from Cheltenham 10 days after he had the vaccine, a coroner has ruled.

George Fisher, aged 18 months, was discovered dead in his cot by his mother Sarah Fisher hours after he was heard "chatting away on the baby monitor".

Mrs Fisher, 42, and husband Christopher, 43, believe the vaccine is "implicated" in their son's death in January 2006 as its temperature-raising effects on children who have previously suffered a fit, as George had, were not explained to them.

Gloucestershire coroner Alan Crickmore decided, after listening to a series of expert witnesses, that George's symptoms had emerged too soon after the Measles, Mumps and Rubella (MMR) jab to be related to it.

Although George had a 2% chance of suffering a convulsion after the jab, those were not known to be fatal and there was no evidence he had even had a second fit.

Instead county coroner Alan Crickmore recorded a verdict of natural causes, explaining that George had died from a rare condition known as Sudden Unexpected Death in Childhood, due to an unascertained disease.

The verdict came after doctors, paediatricians and consultants told the hearing at Gloucester Shire Hall there was no evidence of a link between George's death and the administration of the vaccine.

Department of Health guidelines say the jab should be given "with caution" but does not ban child sufferers of febrile convulsions - fever fits - from taking it and recommends temperature monitoring.

After the inquest, George's mother stormed out of the Gloucester City Council offices where the case was heard, spitting out the words 'natural causes' with disgust.

After the hearing the family's lawyer Judith Leach said George's parents were 'extremely disappointed' with the verdict and would always believe MMR was to blame as no other cause had been found.


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Truth Seeker

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Posted - 12/04/2008 :  19:57:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What whopper of a cover up to add to the collection.
"Sudden Unexpected Death in Childhood" is NOT a rare medical condition.
or a diagnosis but a sentance saying what happened but not how or why.
Another reason to avoid MMR if they all close ranks to cover up the truth.


Vaccinations cause chronic diseases is as fully an accurate things to say as "smoking kills" warnings on cigarette packs.
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