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chris-davies7

United Kingdom
10 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2009 :  11:26:00  Show Profile  Send chris-davies7 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
My daughter of 14 had the first jab some 8 weeks ago now. 30 hours after the jab she woke up with a total loss of voice and an extremely sore throat. Doctors said it was not linked but she a severe case of Laryingitis ? After 4 weeks her voice is now at a whisper but she has no energy, very lethargic. Our doctors has done two lots of blood tests on my daughter to find no underlying illness, however what they did discover was that her white blood cell count was low , she was now suseptible to infection as her body could not fight viruses normally.We are waiting to see a consultant, but I am very sceptical over the outcome.Just a little back ground on my daughter. 14 years old, competetive swimmer 30,000m per week extremely fit young lady, top class,top set in all subjects at school.Hugh social life. Now, cant swim, frightened,vunerable and feels isolated.

C Davies

john

United Kingdom
608 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2009 :  07:30:58  Show Profile  Visit john's Homepage  Send john an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Sorry to hear that, hope she recovers, avoid any more vaccines. They will never admit a vaccine reaction, see Ceravix http://www.whale.to/vaccine/cervarix_h.html Gardasil http://www.whale.to/vaccine/gardasil_damage.html
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jacquia

United Kingdom
111 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2009 :  11:48:50  Show Profile  Send jacquia an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Hi Chris, sorry to hear about your daughter's reaction, please see the link below, you will see that you are not alone.

http://www.jabs.org.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3357&SearchTerms=cervarix



Napoleon once said: "There are two ways of moving men--interest or fear". Probably the most effective way of cajoling the public into submitting to vaccination is the employment of 'scare tactics'.
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jacquia

United Kingdom
111 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2009 :  11:56:53  Show Profile  Send jacquia an AOL message  Reply with Quote
See this Jabs link

http://www.jabs.org.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2917&whichpage=4

Napoleon once said: "There are two ways of moving men--interest or fear". Probably the most effective way of cajoling the public into submitting to vaccination is the employment of 'scare tactics'.
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jacquia

United Kingdom
111 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2009 :  13:27:20  Show Profile  Send jacquia an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Hi Chris,

I have contacted Grace Filby, and she would like you to contact her asap
Grace Filby BA(Hons) Cert Ed FRSA
Winston Churchill Fellow
Science & Engineering Ambassador
www.relax-well.co.uk
www.amazingphage.info

Check out her site concerning HPV




Napoleon once said: "There are two ways of moving men--interest or fear". Probably the most effective way of cajoling the public into submitting to vaccination is the employment of 'scare tactics'.
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Phoenix

85 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2009 :  22:40:43  Show Profile  Send Phoenix an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Chris-Davies7 sorry to be blunt but why hasn't your daughter got laryngitis as the medics have diagnosed? I'm assuming you do know the HPV vaccine is not a viable virus in that it does not contain nucleic acid.
There is a well documented condition of chronic laryngitis that can last for months, try Googling & see what the consultant says

Edited by - Phoenix on 11/28/2009 19:26:25
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Joan

United Kingdom
599 Posts

Posted - 11/28/2009 :  00:30:05  Show Profile  Visit Joan's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You notice Phoenix just picks up on the laryngitis bit.
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EnergeticScot

United Kingdom
1 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2009 :  09:18:19  Show Profile  Send EnergeticScot an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I am so sorry to hear about your daughter and her illness shortly after having been vaccinated with Cervarix. It does not surprise me that an energetic, healthy young girl who also is very athletic has been struck down. This is more common than you think and the same occurs with Gardasil in America. Most of the cases there refer to cheer leaders, sporty types, those who are into athletics. If you wish to contact me go to the Yahoo Web Lets Talk About Gardasil and ask for Freda from Scotland to contact you then I will be able to get in touch with your personally. I have a lot of information and contacts which may help you. Or perhaps Jackie at Jabs, if you have written to her personally, can put you in touch with me.
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chris-davies7

United Kingdom
10 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2009 :  15:42:39  Show Profile  Send chris-davies7 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Hi Pheonix
Laryngitis does not cause Aphonia it can cause Dysphonia where your voice is reduced to a whisper but not a total loss of voice for over six weeks. Severe upper respiratory tract infection including the Larynx, glottis and epiglottis is a known side effect of the jab and can only be confirmed by an ENT specialist with the use of a camera up through the nasel passage and into the back of the throat. A GP does not have the equipment to do such an investigation and he should have been aware of the immunisation programme going on in the town's schools and he should have primed all the doctors at the practice as to the possible side effects of the jab so they could be looking for it, if any teenage girls should attend the surgery.They could then re-act in the proper manner and not just speculate as to the probable cause.
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[i]Originally posted by Phoenix[/i]
[br]Chris-Davies7 sorry to be blunt but why hasn't your daughter got laryngitis as the medics have diagnosed? I'm assuming you do know the HPV vaccine is not a viable virus in that it does not contain nucleic acid.
There is a well documented condition of chronic laryngitis that can last for months, try Googling & see what the consultant says



C Davies
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Phoenix

85 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2009 :  22:28:16  Show Profile  Send Phoenix an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Chris
I recommend googling to find this link to you, it gives a breakdown of the UK reported adverse reactions for cervarix, after 1.4m doses have been administered. Please note these are the reported adverse reactions, no judgement is made on their potential linkage to the vaccination: Google with "cervarix side effects" at number 7 you will get a link to the MHRA web site listing reported cervarix asdverse events, ( I cannot seem to paste the link here)
You will see there is just one case of laryngitis reported on page 14. Laryngitis is not that uncommon, and it looks like your daughter has had a very bad dose of viral laryngitis, why are you making this connection to the vaccine.
I'll repeat my previous comment that cervarix is not a viable virus, it is reassembled surface proteins from the HPV strains with no nucleic acid content.

If your daughter has a very low wbc it may explain why her case of laryngitis has been so severe. I would tactfully suggest that reassuring her that this is just laryngitis and nothing else may overcome possible pyschogenic aspects of this distressing case.

Edited by - Phoenix on 12/14/2009 23:46:19
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jacquia

United Kingdom
111 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2009 :  10:48:48  Show Profile  Send jacquia an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Typical reply from Phoenix!

Phoenix should take the time to quote all the real life adverse reactions to Cervarix & Gardasil mentioned on the Jabs website,(not quote Cloud Cuckoo scientific babble).

Cloud Cuckoo Land refers to an unrealistically idealistic state where everything is perfect. ("You're living in Cloud-cuckoo-land.") It hints that the person referred to is naïve, unaware of reality or deranged in holding such an optimistic belief


If Phoenix has daughters perhaps he/she should vaccinate them with what he/she deems a valid and safe vaccine

Russian roulette (Russian: Russkaya ruletka) is a potentially lethal game of chance in which participants place a single round in a revolver, spin the cylinder, place the muzzle against their head and pull the trigger.



Napoleon once said: "There are two ways of moving men--interest or fear". Probably the most effective way of cajoling the public into submitting to vaccination is the employment of 'scare tactics'.

Edited by - jacquia on 12/17/2009 16:44:46
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Phoenix

85 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2009 :  23:09:05  Show Profile  Send Phoenix an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Directly from your source Jacquia,

Grace Filby BA(Hons) Cert Ed FRSA
Winston Churchill Fellow
Science & Engineering Ambassador
www.relax-well.co.uk
www.amazingphage.info

is this what you mean by "not quote Cloud Cuckoo scientific babble":

"Q Is there a drug to counteract the side effects of the vaccine Cervarix?

A: Some, or most of the negative side effects of the vaccine may be reversed by the actual vaccine in homeopathic potency, but adjunctive homeopathic treatment may be required as well - this information is from an associate who is a qualified and experienced homeopath."
-and-
"MRSA is geographically distributed and could be predicted statistically according to hours of daylight/time of year" "it is for others to take up the challenge if they feel any element of doubt about this suggestion"...in other words Jacquia its not up to the authoress to actually prove what she's talking about is correct its for others to disprove without a shred of evidence being provided by Grace Filby BA(Hons) Cert Ed FRSA, now that really is "Cloud Cuckoo scientific babble" to use your phrase.




Edited by - Phoenix on 12/17/2009 21:34:58
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john

United Kingdom
608 Posts

Posted - 12/18/2009 :  09:08:57  Show Profile  Visit john's Homepage  Send john an AOL message  Reply with Quote
"Cloud Cuckoo scientific babble"

That sums up Allopathy, only bacterial infections cured in 200 years of trying. Their psychiatric chief said recently they never will cure any mental disease:

“The time when psychiatrists considered that they could cure the mentally ill is gone. In the future the mentally ill have to learn to live with their illness.”----Norman Sartorius, president of the World Psychiatric Association (1996-1999), addressing the Association of European Psychiatrists Congress, 1994.]

'living with their disease' is what they feed off: 10-20 million people for a lifetime.

They love to attack homeopathy as it distracts away from their outright failure, and they hope fools some of the majority non-thinking folk. If homeopathy is bunk how come they were curing smallpox:

"Not one case receiving homeopathic care died, while the "old school" doctors lost twenty percent of their (smallpox) cases.....I gave about three hundred internal vaccinations, five to adults acting as practical nurses; to the man who installed the telephone and lights in the pest-house; to mothers who slept with their children while they had smallpox in its severest form. All of these people, exposed daily, were immune."--W. L. Bonnell, MD

One physician in a Pittsburgh hospital asked a nurse if she knew anything better than what he was doing, because he was losing many cases. "Yes, Doctor, stop aspirin and go down to a homeopathic pharmacy, and get homeopathic remedies." The Doctor replied: "But that is homeopathy." "I know it, but the homeopathic doctors for whom I have nursed have not lost a single case."--W. F. Edmundson, MD, Pittsburgh. Treatment of epidemics with Homeopathy by Julian Winston

and before you say that is old stuff, Allopathy still claims smallpox has a 30% death rate!

and why do MDs give up Allopathy and become Homeopaths, like Elmiger http://www.whale.to/v/elmiger2.html

and why does the Indian government support it http://www.whale.to/vaccine/homeopathy12.html

Don't let's forget Allopathy kills 780,000 people in the USA alone every year through drug reactions and neglect like bed sores, so how many do Homeopaths kill? So you could say Homeopathy is 780,000 ahead.

And that is just the deaths.

So "Cloud Cuckoo scientific babble" is a good description of Allopathy.






Edited by - john on 12/19/2009 13:59:03
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chris-davies7

United Kingdom
10 Posts

Posted - 01/02/2010 :  14:56:05  Show Profile  Send chris-davies7 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Has anyone done any research into the possible connection between the Aluminimum containing Adjuvants in the vaccines and the onset of Post vaccinal myelitis, or vaccination encephalitis caused by
Toxic Encephalopathy?

C Davies
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chris-davies7

United Kingdom
10 Posts

Posted - 01/02/2010 :  15:04:58  Show Profile  Send chris-davies7 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Six weeks ago Lucy had a turn for the worse in her condition. Upon the face of it it looks as though she has had a mild seizure or even a stroke, but the doctors are still discrediting this. She has not been able to attend school and can now only walk at a snails pace , she has a trembling right hand and right leg when walking. Her voice is still at a whisper. See my previous posting to see if anyone has had any experience with heavy metal toxin's and their effect on the central nervous system.

C Davies
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Aasa

Canada
773 Posts

Posted - 01/03/2010 :  00:05:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear C Davies,

I am sorry to hear that your daughter is doing so poorly. Apparently, aluminum adjuvants do damage/kill motor neurons, as Dr. Chris A. Shaw discovered with his lab's study of aluminum-containing anthrax vaccines. Please see the following links for more information.

All the best,

Aasa
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

http://www.whale.to/vaccine/study_1.html
P.S., If you google Chris Shaw, aluminum, vaccines, etc., you will be able to find his thoughts on the H1N1 flu vaccine.
P.P.S., Perhaps what helped Desiree Jennings overcome her vaccine damage, may be of some benefit for your daughter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT0wcFrgc5k



Edited by - Aasa on 01/05/2010 01:31:18
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