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jsygal
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 07/17/2009 : 12:59:52
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I've only just found this forum and am so pleased I have. I cannot understand why, if many people have concerns about MMR, are their children not vaccinated with separate vaccines for the diseases concerned just as we were for decades before the MMR was introduced? I am now reading that children who have not had MMR could well be refused entry to State schools, so even more reason to give the separate vaccines? Why is this not a possible solution to the seeming impasse?
One more comment: I am disappointed by the tenor of Occam48's posts.  It saddens me that anyone should feel entitled to spout such vitriol in a public form (especially when the poor syntax and careless punctuation make the posts more difficult to understand) when this kind of forum is surely for considered, qualified debate? |
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Seonaid
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/17/2009 : 22:47:36
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Hi jsygal - welcome to the forum.
Many parents - well those who could afford them - have had their children vaccinated privately with single jabs. Unfortunately [chance or design?] the single mumps jab has not been available for some time, which has pressured parents into accepting MMR though they might not have wanted to go down this route.
Merck - drug company - is to resume manufacture of single vaccines but they wont be available till 2011.
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jsygal
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/18/2009 : 10:11:08
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Thank you for your prompt reply  I'm astonished that single jabs were ever stopped since they are such an obvious answer. I am still somewhat concerned about the attitude of officials who are blackmailing and bullying parents into accepting the triple jab by refusing school entry if they do not. One of my children had a total protein allergy and was not allowed to have the vaccine [i]grown in an egg culture[/i] (have I got that right? It's so long ago ....) so what happens to such children facing the triple without an alternative? |
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MinorityView
USA
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Posted - 07/18/2009 : 19:28:33
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What I can't understand is why anyone would get a child a mumps vaccine. Mumps is truly a mild illness in children. And it provides lifelong immunity once you've had it. Whereas the vaccine does not provide lifelong immunity, providing, instead, the opportunity to get mumps as a teen or young adult, when it is far more painful and unpleasant.
The U.K. doesn't require vaccines for school.
Aged survivor of many years of alternative health care...and one vaccine, administered by a doctor without the consent of my parents, 50 years ago. |
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Seonaid
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/18/2009 : 23:25:15
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I think the argument was that many children might go 'uncovered'for one or more of the diseases if parents were required to take them 3 times to the surgery instead of just once.
But also - I believe it was cheaper for the drug companies - and more lucrative - to produce MMR instead of three separate vaccines.
One way or another, it's all about profits, not about benefits to the children. |
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jsygal
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/19/2009 : 16:14:11
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The U.K. doesn't require vaccines for school (quoted with all due respect...)
It is now being suggested that UK children should provide vaccination certificates before being allowed to enrol in primary school. The British Medical Association are considering "a new National Health Service Constitution which would also contain a 'patient responsibility' to take part in public health programmes, such as vaccination. It is understood that health officials in Wales and in London are considering what action can be taken towards implementing compulsory vaccination except in cases where children cannot be vaccinated for clinical reasons."
This news was announced on 4th June this year. Here cometh the thin end of the wedge.
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MinorityView
USA
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Posted - 07/19/2009 : 16:54:11
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Well, you've all got time to write to your MPs and get all of your friends and relatives to write to their MPs.
Aged survivor of many years of alternative health care...and one vaccine, administered by a doctor without the consent of my parents, 50 years ago. |
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janet1967
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Posted - 01/22/2010 : 19:18:11
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Hi, have just joined the site. What a wonderful mix of people.
dd has had all single dose save for the mumps booster, which we can't get. Am going to be involved in a court case about this soon. I notced a bad reaction to her measles, from which she recovered but but fully, her concentration is ever so slightly not as good as it was. I do not want her have a third dose through mmr. It terrifies me.
I am going to need clinical citations (I think thats what they're called) to defend my position. I haven't been able to find any clinical studies with any conclusions either way regarding effects of 3 doses of measles. Can anyone help?
Thank-you fo reading. |
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jennyr
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Posted - 06/13/2012 : 10:48:34
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On re-visiting this thread I am once again struck by the vicious attempts by those with pharmaceutical agendas to cover up iatrogenic illness by accusing parents of child abuse. It just doesn't get any dirtier than that. I think this very sad story also raises some interesting questions about the hiv virus and its significance, or not.
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jennyr
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Posted - 06/13/2012 : 11:30:17
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I have to admire Christine for directly contacting Dr Peter Flegg and holding him to account. In my opinion, it must have been quite embarrassing for him really to be confronted with a grieving mother who was anything but a mad activist. It seems that her questions became a bit too difficult to answer in the end.
http://www.rethinkingaids.com/Challenges/Maggiore-Flegg.html |
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Phoenix
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Posted - 07/11/2012 : 16:25:32
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The mother died un-necessarily of AIDS, the daughter died of AIDS transmitted from the mother: what on earth is there to admire in that??
Amoxicillin....oh yes that's just one of the most widely used antibiotics in the world, come on get real an HIV +ve women breast fed her child without taking antiretrovirals what's the more likely explanation for the child's death |
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MMR vaccines severely contaminated
